Mary Jo Klinker — activist, agitator, associate professor and director of women’s gender and sexuality studies at Winona State University in Minnesota — returns to talk about abolition as a concept and a modern movement.

Mary Jo Klinker, activist, agitator, and assistant professor of women’s gender and sexuality studies at Winona State University in Minnesota joins Brett to talk about #metoo, prison abolition, online dating in a feminist world, and astound each other with music they haven’t heard of but apparently should have.