Jai Bentley-Payne, doctoral student and lecturer at the University of Aukland, joins Brett to discuss their similar mental health issues, life in New Zealand, fatherhood, and living (and thriving) with pain.
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Jai Bentley-Payne, doctoral student and lecturer at the University of Aukland, joins Brett to discuss their similar mental health issues, life in New Zealand, fatherhood, and living (and thriving) with pain.